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Kikist's avatar

Thank you, informative as always! I think Pres. Trump is so busy at the moment working on his "Peace Prize (-s)" that it will take him a while to go full-force in Portland as predicted. We´ll see.

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Jill's avatar

I am absolutely sick of the South African apartheid analogy being applied to any perceived injustice. It just goes to show 1) how we have utterly lost any precision in language; and 2) people do not know their history at all and lean on clean social media lines to form their opinions. Apartheid South Africa was the government imposing racial segregation policies on its own citizens (the best comparison to American policy would be to Jim Crow). I have heard Nelson Mandela compared to every public figure under the sun, including Hamas ("they called him a terrorist too!!!").

Trump's weaponization of ICE is its own human rights violation because it promotes racial profiling (picking up Latinos just b/c officers hear them speaking in Spanish). It also eschews due process in ways that are at best cruel, and at worst unconstitutional. But it needs to be evaluated for what it is. How's this for an idea: why don't we stop comparing everything to the Nazis and just talk about current events for what they are?!

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Steven  Mann's avatar

Dear Rabbi, sadly I have been moved to feelings hard to deny that the conditions and suffering within the Israeli territories that are quite catastrophic and replete with suffering not seen in the realms of human civilization in many decades. May I be given the grace of some in your community without offense to decry this truly desperate crisis without garnering labels and claims of disloyalty to our cherished duality of nations we value so highly? I am so fearful of being called traitor or anti-Semitic as occurred at Ivy League Institutions. How can we all stay in solidarity amongst this tragedy of devastating scale?

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Rabbi Joshua Hammerman's avatar

We can work together to bring about needed change. We need to be able to distinguish carefully between what is verifiable and what is hyperbole (or outright falsehood). I don't agree that the suffering in Gaza, for instance, matches what has happened in Syria, Rwanda or Cambodia. Or, in terms of pure savagery, October 7. But such comparisons should not matter. To better understand where many Israelis and other Jews stand, who are anguished but also angry right now, read - with as open a mind as possible - Yossi Klein Halevi's column in Times of Israel.https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/our-season-of-reckoning-israels-moral-crossroads-in-gaza/

But you should never be called a traitor, and your concerns are not antisemitic.

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Steven  Mann's avatar

Thank you so much for your kind reply with helpful reference to give more detailed and current constructive for present and future reporting I will benefit from being informed rather than assuming anything before getting a bigger picture over time. What a benefit for me. Much appreciated!

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